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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Mon, Jul. 23rd, 2007 03:50 pm
Harry Potter speculations (no spoilers in post, inevitably in comments)

ravenna_c_tan and I sat down and wrote our last-minute guesses (in the hour before Deathly Hallows went on sale) on some plot points we expected would be addressed in the book. She posted hers here (and yes, the comments are spoilery). Here are mine. We sort of shorthanded the questions to each other so may not have answered exactly the same questions. ;-)



1. Does Dumbledore come back?

Not resurrected, but Fawkes and the portrait will be active and represent him.

2. Whose side is Snape on?

Harry's. (I was very precise about this after reading some fanfics in which Snape is working for Harry's benefit rather than being 'Dumbledore's man'.)

3. Who dies?

Voldemort, Ron or Hermione but not both, Neville or Ginny but not both, Snape, Lucius, not Harry, not Draco.

These were all wild-ass guesses except Voldemort, Snape, not-Harry.

4. Does Harry get back together with Ginny? Do Ron and Hermione end up together?

H/G: Yes but ew. R/H: no because someone's dead.

5. Who gets forgiven or redeemed?

Snape does, Dursleys don't but it is irrelevant to the story, Draco remains ambiguous, Voldemort and DE's not individually named don't.

6. Is Draco Marked?

Yes, by the end.

7. Was that the Horcrux locket they saw at #12? Who had it, Kreacher or Mundungus?

Yes, and Mundungus.

8. Was R. A. B. Regulus?

I didn't write this question down, I snagged it from ravenna's post, but I'd have said totally yes, that introducing a new R.A.B. would be lame.

9. What was the real reason Albus trusted Severus? Was it, as was said before, because his remorse over the Potter's deaths was real? Or is there another reason? Something we don't know?

Another Unbreakable Vow.

10. What about the life debts? Will Peter Pettigrew's life debt to Harry be important? Was Snape's to James passed on to Harry, or not, since we don't know how life debts work?

Peter's will matter and be paid off; Snape's, if relevant, will be answered by his working to defeat Voldemort and by his death.

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ravenna_c_tan
ravenna_c_tan
ravenna_c_tan
Mon, Jul. 23rd, 2007 10:48 pm (UTC)

On the question of Regulus, yes, that's what you said at the time, too. I suppose the question was really, will she or won't she spring another new character of significance on us? :)


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dr_whom
dr_whom
AJD
Tue, Jul. 24th, 2007 01:48 am (UTC)

Score: 60 out of a possible 100 points (10 possible per question, to make partial credit easier ot keep track of).


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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Tue, Jul. 24th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)

Hmm. Are you scoring you or me? Going with partial credit, I come up with 70 for me, but it's very fiddly.


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dr_whom
dr_whom
AJD
Tue, Jul. 24th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)

I was scoring you. Let me see if I can reconstruct my reasoning.

1. 7 points. Dumbledore stays dead; no sign of Fawkes; portrait appears, but only a couple of times.

2. 8 points. If you're making fine enough distinctions to be distinguishing between Harry's side and Dumbledore's side, then Snape is on Lily's side.

3. 6 points, for Voldemort, Snape, not Harry, and not Draco.

4. 5 points for H/G.

5. 9 points: lose one for Dudley.

6. 0 points.

7. 10 points. Even though Umbridge had the locket, this was a multiple choice question, and Mundungus is more correct than Kreacher.

8. 10 points.

9. 0 points.

10. 10 points.

That adds up to 65. I think this time around I was more lenient on partial credit for questions 3 and 5, but I'm not sure if that makes up the whole difference.


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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Tue, Jul. 24th, 2007 02:45 am (UTC)

Hm. I gave myself half for 6 because we don't know either way. Either that or my score is 60 out of 90 instead, discarding the question.

I also gave myself full points on 2 but only 5 for 1, which is a wash, but on second glance I score both of them in the way most favorable to me and gain two points. ;-) (No really. His goal was *because* of Lily, but it was to protect and aid Harry. And you're right that there are three parts to question 1, not just Fawkes and portrait.)


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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Tue, Jul. 24th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC)

... where by 60 out of 90 I of course meant 65 out of 90.


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ramblingnic
ramblingnic
Nic
Tue, Jul. 24th, 2007 04:01 am (UTC)

*laugh* You guys are so academic.


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silver_fic
silver_fic
silver_fic
Thu, Jul. 26th, 2007 02:11 am (UTC)

I don't think I understand what six means..... Oh, you mean, like the dark mark? Oh, nevermind, now I feel silly ^____^

So you don't like Harry/Ginny either?


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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Mon, Aug. 13th, 2007 03:23 pm (UTC)

Whoops, I don't know how I missed this comment.

I don't dislike Harry/Ginny as, for example, it appeared in HBP. But I don't think it makes sense that they're a relationship that will last for decades. Just on a gut level. Ginny doesn't feel like a real enough person for that to seem like a real relationship to me; instead it feels to me like Harry is ending up with a groupie or Mary Sue character.

And of course Ginny gets in the way of one's favorite slash pairing involving Harry. :-P


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silver_fic
silver_fic
silver_fic
Fri, Aug. 17th, 2007 03:30 pm (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense. But I guess if he were going to marry someone else it would probably have to be a brand new charcter, and she probably didn't want to write a new character jsut for the epilogue.

And, yeah, Ginny would get in the way for them too ^__^


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tillyoulostme
tillyoulostme
The Ballerina With Fins That You'll Never Find
Tue, Aug. 21st, 2007 09:40 am (UTC)

Hey Claudia!

This is Toria, I've friended you with my RL journal - hope you don't mind...

You were remarkably close with these, actually, but I think, as with any of us slight fanatics, it was easy to get some of the plans and points. JK did throw us for a slight loop with the introduction of a completely new magical concept, but...


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