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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Sat, Mar. 29th, 2003 06:31 pm
Various thoughts: serious

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drdemure
drdemure
DrDemure
Sat, Mar. 29th, 2003 05:05 pm (UTC)

I, too, have problems with this bill. Being as Grey is an agnostic, and I'm the next best thing to being there, we have problems with people forcing religion upon us when we are not feeling the need to have any. I spent many days being sick to my stomach over this action, but none of it was spiritual in the sense that I felt a need to call upon god or that the end was near. We are finding that, there is very little freedom *from* religion.

Grey works for a large, global corporation which is very much about expressing its understanding that people have different faiths. It seems to care naught that some people have no faith, religiously speaking. There are prayer meetings going on when he is trying to work. Next to his office. He would very much like to just do his job without other people's religions interfering. But no one seems to care about that. It seems to me, that if you don't want to embrace a religion at this point in time, that you are on the outs. Period.

I am highly concerned about how much religion is impinging on the state. I did think, at one point, that there was a separation. I am seeing less and less of it now. I want my government to act for me secularly. I shall decide what it means for me spiritually. Stay out of my religious life. I can handle it on my own.

So, in the spirit of the bill...I proclaim a day of "Feasting and Swear". Anybody care to take up the banner?


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clauclauclaudia
clauclauclaudia
Claudia
Sat, Mar. 29th, 2003 05:14 pm (UTC)

Ah! Thank you of reminding me of a point I lost in the re-edit process. The picnic is added back in. ;-)

As for the swearing part, I don't see a need to be deliberately offensive to people. If they are offended by a picnic, that's one thing, but I don't want to bait people to the degree of swearing. It's not any individual act of worship that offends me, after all--it's what the legislators did, and what I expect Bush to do.


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drdemure
drdemure
DrDemure
Sat, Mar. 29th, 2003 05:33 pm (UTC)

And, with me, it's not so much a point of offending others. The "swear" part just mostly rhymes with "prayer". :) My big thing is that there is a whole lot of God going around, and there are lots of different interpretations of what "god" is. It's confusing the issue. A comic on Comedy Central last night said that, "Any time Republicans are in office, you see 'sodomy' in the headlines." And it's true. We are not combating mores. We are trying to subdue what some would see as an iminent threat. What does that have to do with religion? Why are we trying to fast and pray over this? The issues are being confused. Which is why there is still a glaring need for separation of church and state. We cannot be embroiled in a holy war. It might be one from some people's perspectives, but we have to act secularly. If we start to drag god into this, we are on the path of no return. The path the Middle East cannot, after centuries seem to find its way through, and a path which has caused some zealots to kill several thousand people in our country over. We have to say, ok...god is here...and we are there. The two just don't mix.


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emmacrew
emmacrew
Emma
Sat, Mar. 29th, 2003 07:50 pm (UTC)

I was thinking of a big pile of cream puffs, or something else similarly gooey and decadent and about as anti-fasting as one can get. And I thought of cussing a lot too...


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